Hi, thanks for all your help,

MSN is now working, without indicating the problem for ages it then said my password was incorrect which it wasn't, i decided to change my password after many attempts as i got very frustrated lol nd 2nd try after doing that its now up and running so that was confusing,

i followed your instructions for hotmail nokix and i got it working so thank you, even though it sometimes doesnt show all messages for some reason.

So.. so far so good, i appreciate the swift nd decent help, cheers.