I'm with geneven, and it puzzles me why some flatly refuse to entertain the idea of a return to ITT. It was ITT back when I joined, not NITT (Nokia Internet Tablet Talk). It seems that everyone fails toaccount for the fact that back then, Nokia was the only player in the game.

It was pre-smart phone even (or very nearly so). The idea that you could have a desktop browser experience (with flash), in the palm of your hand, unheard of. And yet, there was a competitors forum, there were projects like Easy Debian, and dual booting Ubuntu, to take it even further than Nokia had dared to dream.

I think that there is a real opportunity to re-invent TMO as ITT, not as NITT, but as FOSSITT. There are plenty of like minded people out there existing on the fringes of other communities, running Ubuntu in chroot, dual-booting native Ubuntu alongside android (on the Asus transformer, a tablet capable of accessing the internet). But most of what they do is lost among the noise of their own communities.

Sure, anyone could start a new community from scratch. Try to gain some members, build some momentum, maybe turn it into something. But why re-invent the wheel? We have a great community with some very talented developers already in place. Why not open the doors to other like minded people trying to open source on non-Nokia devices? If you can dual boot Ubuntu on a Transformer, I'd think MeeGo shouldn't present much of a problem. Shockingly, some of the members of this community have non-Nokia devices! This also means they have ties to other communities. They could help bring in new members to a community re-focused on bringing FOSS to mobile/portable devices regardless of manufacturer or flavor software.

Show a company like Asus that there is a strong thriving community around porting MeeGo to their devices (if you can dual-boot the Transformer, I'll bet the upcoming Slider won't be far behind), and I bet they start considering, if not MeeGo, at least encouraging development through open bootloaders/better drivers, etc. Note that HTC is already encouraging development by leaving bootloaders unlocked. Other manufacturers might decide they'd like the publicity and extra sales such a community could bring.

Or, show those same manufacturers a community slowly dying due to lack of hardware. A platform with few sales, no ecosystem, no manufacturers willing to risk investing. (Seems like I should be able to think of a similar example of that) Maemo is nearly dead, MeeGo is withering on the vine, soon to have sales figures to backup how bad a risk it is. A community that is slowly shedding members isn't exactly going to inspire confidence, even in a manufacturer looking to re-invent itself, or move in a new direction.

But a growing community, with a growing ecosystem, and multiple devices (perhaps even from multiple vendors), well that might be worth looking at. But that won't happen (at least not here), if we want to wait another year and a half and argue where MeeGo fits into Maemo, or whether Maemo should transition to MeeGo.

We have talent, experience, and a community ready made. Open the doors a little wider, and while MeeGo might not be the main focus of the new community, it would at least be a thriving subset of a larger community that shares similar goals. And be able to point to Maemo and say this is what we grew from, this is our history.

geneven, if I've put any words in your mouth I apologize.