after reading this thread, i think i've gotten enough information to get a very high level overview of how the meego development has changed over time. But, how i view it has nothing to do with your statement about the development being "slow going". At all. I can't agree with you about this with less than that you do what i asked you to: Back up your opinion with reasons other than "i think so." and we can talk about it. If you can't back your managerial decision with more than an opinion, that it's "slow going", you're a really really really bad manager. But, since you have this view of the project, it's even more important that you back it up with what i asked for. If only for a chance to learn something or teach the meego team something. Come on, show the people that have been working on this that you actually have some valuable input. Your strong opinions suggests that you've at least done some analysis. You keep repeating things to this affect. Again and again. How about backing them up with why you think this? Be a little more generous with your knowledge. So far, every meego developer that has voiced an opinion in this thread (unless i've misunderstood something) has ended up in "as it stands, meego is not a drop-in replacement on the n900. But we're working on it.". Might it be the case that their milestones and yours just aren't the same or just not planned or estimated at the same cost as the ones you're so adamantly trying to tell us that they failed to meet? Without any other argument than "because i say so.", i might add. I am very realistic. And i'm also very interested in a discussion where opinions are backed with actual arguments.