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Originally Posted by woody14619 View Post
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So, you didn't knew that Meego had an x86 target.... but you did know there was a Atom device in the pipeline? Well, I didn't.
So you say there are no Meego ARM devices in the pipeline, but you did know there is a Snapdragon in the pipeline? Well, Snapdragon is ARM. But that there's a Snapdragon device in the pipeline is news to me too.

So you say "Maemo is not designed for x86 because there's a x86 target". Therefore I understand that you think Maemo is designed for ARM. Well, MeegoCE is designed for ARM. What other architecture could it be designed for?

I am going to tell you of a few devices on the Meego pipeline: the N900. The N950. And the N9. And I don't mean Harmattan.

And _some_ of the MeegoCE development will come to the N900. For a start, there's the Components port. If that's not N9 development coming to the N900, I don't know what is.

Originally Posted by woody14619 View Post
The thing is, most people don't see ARM based computers as "computers".
So you now think that most people don't see ARM devices as computers. Most people don't know what ARM is. Of those who do, virtually all of them know they are _computers_ in the proper sense. On a noob forum I could understand such confusion.

But on THIS forum? You don't seem to have been here for long...

So you think the only device that has "GSM, wifi, a keyboard, touch screen, Gigs of space, reasonable ram, and a fast core with an open bootloader" is the N900. More stupidy. Have you looked at the list of _ARM_ devices Meego has been ported to? And why do you think GSM, keyboard are required?

Even the Beagleboard made it.

But more important, why wouldn't they _use_ the N900? Nokia paid for it.

Originally Posted by woody14619 View Post
I can still talk to wifi devices. I can still use bluetooth. I can still make GSM calls. Maemo binary blobs won't stop working because some new update in the core software causes an incompatibility.
So you think your closed blobs won't stop working. I hope you know that Google is currently implementing a special workaround in their servers for N900 video call support. When Google stops caring about the N900 (and I bet they will rather soon), you'd hopefully understand why it would have been better if you had been using the opensource Meego call UI.

Sometimes I do at least.

Originally Posted by woody14619 View Post
With the N9 coming out, development will shift to it, and away from the N900. That means fewer people working on the N900, which means fewer people fixing and tweaking (or caring about) the N900.
So you think that when development moves to the N9, MeegoCE people that are paid to work on the N900 will be first to move to the N9. Sure, they will move. But _all_ other developers will move there first.

If you only knew a bit of the people involved. Those are the guys that still pushed for the N8x0 MBX drivers despite the N900 being out.

Originally Posted by woody14619 View Post
By whom? Nokia has never promised it. MeeGo has never promised it. MeeGo CE has never promised that MeeGo would ever be "productised" or ready for the average N900 user.
You also fail to understand something. If you use a product way past its official support time, you no longer are "average user". Get that in your little head. Stop complaining about stuff not being made for the average user like if it was important for you, because the "average user" has already made another "voluntary" $600 contribution to Nokia and moved on.

You are here. MeegoCE project is targeting you. Take that as hint and contribute.

Originally Posted by woody14619 View Post
Tell me: When the N900 was announced, how much work happened on Diablo on Nokias part after that date?
Little. But please note that MeegoCE is _already_ a larger effort from Nokia to release updated stuff for a past device than the previous attemps (HE editions) were. As said, that's virtually the only argument you N900-centric people can use.
But seemingly don't want.

And the fact that you don't even want to compare to the N8x0 (same forum, virtually same device & software, same company behind it, virtually same employees, virtually same userbase) should make you rethink the facts twice at least.




I'm getting tired of your complete _horrible_ mistakes about the history and the facts of Meego, like "no real support for MeeGo on ARM until Nokia joined the party" (how could that be if NOKIA IS THE DAMN FOUNDER OF MEEGO!!!!!!!!!), that when I rebuff you start saying that "I meant to say" or "you should have understood that".

If you want to keep this flamewar, please Google a bit before posting.

Last edited by javispedro; 2011-09-06 at 22:40. Reason: adding blockquotes that were misteriously eaten