@Tekki: well I was already idling on irc nearly 20 years ago, so it's not that alien to me (or maybe it was, to see that it hasn't changed all that much through the years). At the core, I think we do need to represent the openness (libre) that we are fighting for here by letting people like abill say their piece... to a certain extent, at least... But looking at his warpath and the actual societal damage that he has done to what little is left of the maemo community is also disheartening and screams for tighter control and moderation.