What do you mean Elop gave us the N9?, for your information the N9 was in the development stages well before Elop even had anything to do with Nokia. Your so obsessed with the iphone that you just do not like Nokia one least bit YET you come on a Nokia based forum and tell everyone how bad Nokia is and how good Elop is.... mate you need your head examined if you even think you will gain any popularity from this Nokia based forum !. I am actually shocked you drag down people who have actually thanked some of your posts.