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	Estel	2011-09-17 , 21:34
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Originally Posted by pusak gaoq

Do we really need deauthentication in cleven???
i really don't think we needed it (on my behalf ) cause i have Cleven, fAircrack & Wepon on my device....fAircrack does have the deauthentication but it doesn't work all the time...beside deauthentication only works if there a clients connected with the AP....

for me the most important is authentication....Wepon got the best authentication...Cleven is seconds & fAircrack third....i think we should focus on authentication (in Cleven) cause we need to authenticate if there no clients connected to any AP...if there is a clients then all we have to do is waits until the data is around 35k-50k before we try to decrypt it....

Yea, because using 3 tools to achieve one thing is optimal

to be honest, in You place, I would use sole terminal.

Anyway, what the heck You mean by "better" authentication? There is no such thing. Fake auth won't "magically" create ARP for injection. It can create ACK only. If there is no client connected, You've to wait anyway - for someone to connect, most likely, or - for IVs generated @ ratio ~3 IVs/minute

Originally Posted by Saturn

have asked this also in the past - why you mention two types of deauthentication?

AFAIK, there is only one. One needs to deauthenticate a client from the AP and for that the mac of a connected client is needed.

Excuse me, if You've asked it in the past - I must have missed it. AFAIK there are 2 variants of deauth command - one targeted at client (need client MAC, and - as i always thought - AP MAC, but, if You're sure client MAC is all what it needs, I may be wrong), and another, targeted at AP MAC, which theoretically should deauth every client connected. The latter is described (in aircrack docs) as "less effective". I suspect, that it's about method to forge non-legit deauth packet - probably, some clients respond to "generic" ones, if it just "seems" to come from AP, other are "smarter" and need 100% standarised packet with their MAC "mentioned".

The "overall" deauthentication is currently supported in StefanL's fAircrack 0.45, and it works (when it have chance to work, i.e. correct signal quality, and vulnerable clients connected).

As for parsing data from airodumb-ng, unfortunatelly, I've no idea, and that's one of moments, when I regret, that I'm not skillful coder

I hope this deauth explanation helps.

/Estel

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