Seriously, I don't get this. The 23 September was a random Swedish date made up by some random Swedish Nokia fans. I have never seen any real official date until now. October 3 is an official date. It may be off by 3-4 days (+-) who knows, but it's still an official date, a date in which Nokia has promised Telenor they can start sending devices to customers. IMO the date is certain within 95% and you can pre order from just about any place now. Not every reseller will get them in time, that's for sure, but Telenor will