Thread: What is aegis [MSSF] and how does it affect Free Software development?
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2011-09-22 , 08:02
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Originally Posted by debernardis View Post
*This* thread :http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=4575
Very interesting topic. It looks like the rebellion by some very important community contributors.

I think we should avoid direct involvement in their topic, but nothing prevents us from discussing it here.

Here are some things that caught my attention:

There are some new terms like platform developers, which seems to exclude community developers. I think platform developers include nokia employees and subcontractors(speculation, but it smells that way) .

I am really scared of the platform developer reasoning. It looks like they are obsessed with limiting what developers and users can do with their devices. They behave like they actually own the device. If you buy N9 you are not an owner with full rights - instead you are allowed to do what nokia thinks is ok for you.

That sounds like converting the community developers to the level of Symbian/Android/iOS developer. Basically enclosed in a box and subdued.

Originally Posted by djszapi@meego
You can send your device back, if you do not enjoy the hardware or/and software. There is no obligation for you to ship an application, if you do not have time and sake to do it anymore. I know many people out there waiting for this device. At least when I showed them, they were happy and I mentioned the general complains.

Do not take it offense, please, but it might be that, it is that platform you do not enjoy, and would be better to give to those people who would die for one with its current state.
I think this should have been expected once it became clear developers will not own a device.

Originally Posted by javispedro@meego
Either way. I am willing to give you the benefit of doubt again.
You are asserting that lizardo's trick, aka, patching the kernel so that it lies to userspace applications about the state of Aegis, _is_ the sanctioned way to disable Aegis that I've been looking for.
Well, it hardly seems like one official method though. But I will patiently wait for the kernel sources to materialize and hope that if we start using that Nokia will not eventually "fix it" in the next firmware release.
I wonder if they are going to get kernel sources?

My guess is that the platform architect (and btw: who may that be?) is intentionally squeezing security credentials for following reasons:
  • introduce gradual changes to tighten the "security" without braking everything
  • at the same time too much of a "security" at once might make community developers angry.
  • optionally, make the community developers challenge the security framework, so any vulnerability can be detected.

The question is what is the final step (5/5)?

I think the problems community got from closed binaries, is children's play compared to what may happen to N9(50).

We can not blame Elop for this, since it started long before him.

EDIT: rephrased some of my faulty english
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