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Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
Some weird thoughts went through my head...

I know that Elop and the rest of Nokia knew nothing about the MeeGo folding into Tizen announcement; however they will still try to benefit from by stating that it would not have been beneficial to them. And honestly, they'd be a bit right. Tizen isn't pushing the Nokia purchased Qt upfront. People are up in arms about that, some rightfully so. But the move to HTML5 further supports the anti-Flash (and Adobe AIR) sentiment.

So what will happen now? Will the 2015 statement about support and updates now be invalid? Or will it be further qualified/limited to be just around the Swipe UI/Harmattan?

MeeGo 1.3 was due next month. Now what will happen with that?

Mango was released this week. Maemo was "killed" again this week - the upgrade path to MeeGo was already somewhat muddy, the upgrade path to Tizen is unclear. MeeGo was "killed" this week, rolled into Tizen. And the N9 is still yet to be sold.

If this was engineered, it was engineered only to try to prop up WP7 as the one true future for Nokia. Which, full circle, benefits Elop's decisions.

Samsung going for Tizen, now they're a 4 mobile OS company. Android, WP7, Bada and now Tizen. Tizen isn't ready to replace their Android tablets and phones. I'd love to see a Galaxy S3 with Tizen and see it sell like the Galaxy S2 numbers - 10 million in a couple months. Bada is looking to be future open-sourced. So how does Tizen benefit Samsung? If they they did drop Android, now Microsoft only can charge royalties for WP7, no more for Android.

Thus... Google loses. But as it stands, Android is deeply entrenched into their phones and tablet strategy. In a few weeks, I expect something from Samsung pertaining their tablets - the 7.7 and 8.9 as well as Samsung Note just passed through (or are passing through) FCC right now.

Tizen needs traction. People looking at only Qt as their reason why it will fail, I disagree. Qt Components don't even run equally across Symbian and Maemo/MeeGo. Where's the "run anywhere" mentality? Qt Quick/QML isn't fully supported on the prior Maemo 4.1 - despite an update or two. But then again, that's been settled via MeeGo CE on that platform. But the aforesaid problem still exists.

Android is a source of revenue for Microsoft - vague patents that have yet to be explained in full detail. Samsung is paying Microsoft doubly. Tizen might resolve that, but it's far too early.

And the rest of the anger towards Tizen/Qt - it didn't help MeeGo that Qt was there. MeeGo didn't benefit from Nokia - February 2010, they announced full support. February 2011, they denounced MeeGo, surprising Intel. They've yet to still fully release the N9, and now this happens... there's no upgrade path described from MeeGo 1.2 under Harmattan to Tizen 1.x under Harmattan. So that's now a dead-end, as previously predicted by Elop (in so many words).

Now what is next?
whats next is that "maemo6 harmattan" is stil alive and first PR upgrade around a month after release. atleast what nnokia said today.

also meego core has been dead for months it seems. meegoux inactive but qt-components for harmattan active developed... so nothing new. activite development has been from the Meego 1.3 CE team for n9xx and funny is some of those is actually Nokia employers.
 

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