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2011-09-28 , 23:09
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Originally Posted by shallimus View Post
Yeah, no doubt. They're getting the end of the stick which isn't brown and sticky.

Imagine the following:
  1. Yugo corporation has lots of money and has been trying to make a successful car for ages
  2. Audi have been building great cars for ages, but have lost their way quite badly and are floundering
  3. Yugo 'partner' with Audi
  4. All future Audi models will now feature Yugo engines, but will retain Audi floor mats, doorhandles, wing mirrors etc.
  5. You are a Yugo owner/enthusiast

Naturally, you're going to be thrilled!

Not so much the poor suckers who have been waiting for their new R8 though...
I, for one, look forward to purchasing my new Yugo R8 soon. I trust it will be inexpensive, look incredibly beautiful and that the engine will barely be able to move the body when there's anything more than one American-sized driver sitting in a seat.

Windows Phone 7 is so cute. It's tryyyying!

Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
Samsung going for Tizen, now they're a 4 mobile OS company. Android, WP7, Bada and now Tizen.
Don't forget that Samsung has been talking up rumors about dropping Windows Phone 7. If nothing else, this might be leverage somehow--or maybe they're genuinely considering growing past Android and into something more desktop-powerful on efficient processors for mobile laptops and tablets that Android might not quite satisfy. Just brainstorming based on these various rumors and confirmed revelations together. I sincerely doubt they'll drop Android on handsets and tablets, in any case... at least not in the foreseeable future.

Tizen needs traction. People looking at only Qt as their reason why it will fail, I disagree. Qt Components don't even run equally across Symbian and Maemo/MeeGo. Where's the "run anywhere" mentality? Qt Quick/QML isn't fully supported on the prior Maemo 4.1 - despite an update or two. But then again, that's been settled via MeeGo CE on that platform. But the aforesaid problem still exists.

Android is a source of revenue for Microsoft - vague patents that have yet to be explained in full detail. Samsung is paying Microsoft doubly. Tizen might resolve that, but it's far too early.

And the rest of the anger towards Tizen/Qt - it didn't help MeeGo that Qt was there. MeeGo didn't benefit from Nokia - February 2010, they announced full support. February 2011, they denounced MeeGo, surprising Intel. They've yet to still fully release the N9, and now this happens... there's no upgrade path described from MeeGo 1.2 under Harmattan to Tizen 1.x under Harmattan. So that's now a dead-end, as previously predicted by Elop (in so many words).

Now what is next?[/QUOTE]

Originally Posted by xerxes2 View Post
The whole Tizen thing is actually a bit funny because Nokia whined a long time before they were allowed to call Harmattan Meego. I bet qgil and other Nokia dudes didn't see this coming. Or anyone else for that matter.

Now what's next? The N9 being delayed a few more weeks because they must make new boxes marked "Tizen 1.2 Harmattan".


Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
Tizen? I don't hate the name. But I like it less than MeeGo and I truly disliked it. But at least it's not LiMo, which looks like limo as in the stretched car; how is said by many folks like Lee-mo.
Tizen is an incredibly unfortunate name to market. It WILL be abused. LiMo would have been worse--FAR too easy to mangle it as 'lame-o' in the hearts and minds of someone who's just hearing about the name for the first time. I know it's the first thing I misread it as when I came across it the first time--and sometimes again even now. I'm in total agreement with you on this.
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