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Originally Posted by danramos View Post
Well, when you put it in 'what *I* thought' terms, how can there be a debate about it?
;-)

It does not allow you to, once again, replace components of the system or interface without ruining said system/interface... just like Maemo.
This is my point. That was what MeeGo was for. Where are we now?

I agree though that Harmattan doesn't have it but I think Swipe is pretty sweet. Much nicer than any skin I've seen on Maemo. No disrespect to those who have made customizations to Maemo.

It does not actually do much of what I expect from Linux--flexibility of software--given the closed-down nature of the kernel (if you try to compile your own to support some features, you're left in a difficult situation for support of hardware components.. again).
Yup, you're right. Again, MeeGo met that criteria. I'm arguing your previous point that MeeGo wasn't Nokia's attempt at supporting the community.

Harmattan also lacks the ability to run on other hardware--something that at least MeeGo does (or is trying to) do.
Haha. They barely are able to get it out on the N9 and you want it on multiple. Let's not get too greedy now.

The N9, as a handset, lacks a replaceable battery, it lacks any kind of expansion (SDHC or microSDHC), it's just--sadly--limited.
Yeah I agree with that, but how many phones support more than 64GB's of storage? Not many I don't think.

Sure it has a lovely looking body and an attractive AMOLED screen, but there's an array of similar or better (Samsung's SuperAMOLED+ for example... and even in higher resolutions) than the N9 already available.
I don't mind you diverging on to hardware criticisms but let's get back to the original story, shall we, and that's sofwware

It's just too little, too late and there isn't even that ONE great advantage that Nokia COULD have taken advantage of: Open-source and community. Sadly, even the Android crowd has managed to do more with far less openness.
Um.... The point of Android was the fragmentation and for different hardware manufacturers to get on board.

You don't have to agree, just take a look around the XDA forums alone for some evidence of progress everywhere else.
True, my contention is that MeeGo was a distraction. By MeeGo I mean the Intel alliance and all the stuff that came with it. I think if they continued on the path of Maemo 6 and etc I think they could have accomplished something comparable (though not exactly the same) as Android. The difference though is that Maemo was never intended for other manufacturers.... so in the end going down the MeeGo path, there was nothing to show. Whereas if they stuck with Maemo, I think they might have had a chance to do something for the community.

I still hold out a glimmer of hope, yes, but I really don't think Nokia is interested in listening to us despite the successes of Google, Red Hat, Canonical and other far more open-source and community-friendly high-tech companies that have successfully competed against Microsoft and appears to be winning.
Umm... The 3 vendors you mentioned are software vendors. Nokia is a hardware vendor first, then incidentally software.

BTW, I enjoy the back and forth but unfortunately am about to get on an airplane so won't be able to respond.
 

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