You not liking it doesn't make it useless <expletive>. You are not Nokia's only client, nor the final authority in phones. If you have arguments, present them. Don't issue divine edicts. Stone tablets are expensive.

What you thought the phone would do is not Nokia's or the device's fault. You should have checked the device's capabilities, went to a dealer to fiddle with it, ask someone BEFORE getting one.

You know what, I'm not going to get dragged into this. It's not for me to drag people into the light. You're right, they are both a mess.

Again with the egocentric view? You don't like it, fine. It's obviously incompatible with you. Why are you on a Maemo forum, on a review thread, spewing your bad experiences like it's gospel?

This thread was meant to be informative. Double-check your experiences, fix the issues, and, when you're sure it has a problem, add it to a Symbian 3 review.

Better yet, open a counter-thread and inform people of your view. It's free.

Oh, good, you found a phone that can do one thing better. I was getting worried.

If you feel above is being sarcastic, good, because it is. I hate the "it's not <year> any more" because it can be applied to 95% of all arguments. It can't print? The Chinese did that! It's not 112 AD any more!

Beloved Maemo doesn't allow resizing. Old Windows Mobile did that! This isn't 2003 any more!

See how forced that sounds?

RTFM.

The phone has the ability to create new folders, move them around, group apps, just like every Symbian before it. With additional apps, you can even change icons.

YOU can't be bothered.

RTFM.

For both, tap the home widget(s) or shortcut(s) on desktop. They both have notifications that allow reading direct from tapping the top status menu on events.

As for "menu/app/tools/phone-setup, what is that", tap "call" to enter Phone and then Options to adjust search, enter contacts, configure speed dial and adjust the call settings. The other phone settings will be accessed once in the life of the phone, there is no reason to keep them on desktop.

If you fiddle with settings a lot, have a Settings shortcut on the desktop. Tap it once to get the full settings menu.



See? Easy.

RTFM.

You can still pile them all in Menu/xxx. The OS just adds newly installed apps into a folder called "apps" so they wouldn't clutter the home menu like Android/iOS does. You can move them to /Games or /Multimedia/Imaging.

And since you're unlikely to read back or read the manual, it's done by holding the finger down in the menu, just like M5. Also tap and hold to delete, move.

Also, FYI, you can have submenus as shortcuts on the desktop, so you can tap and have a window with all GPS apps ready. Or communications. Or "Applications" folder, where everything is just piled in one, big, honking, heap of icons, that takes a while to open and makes everything hard to find. To each his own, I guess.

Instances are limited to one to save limited resources since it's a blasted phone not a quad core. Apps that make sense to run twice have windows embedded in them - Browser, e.g. There is little point in running 3 contacts app.

Menu is in the task manager because, while running, it keeps the menu cached for faster access. If you need the memory, you can close it. It also keeps a tally of running apps so it can have the little indicator over the app and folder that is running (has running things in them). This takes a toll.

I'd rather have the option than not.

WTF are you on about? The task manager has 3 visible tasks (with preview), and scrolls. If you run less than 6 apps, like a human being, you need to swipe the screen ONCE.

It also offers an option to Close All.

Also, there are no services in the task switcher. Which is kind of the point of having system services. Get it fixed.

Click the X to close it. If it's hung, it will be placed in a kill queue and will be closed as soon as possible by the daemons (after giving it the option to close gracefully - hence the delay). Clicking like a nutcase doesn't help. Also, holding the button while apps are busy saving will corrupt your filesystem. If you did that, database enabled systems might crash. Like, say, Conversations.

You are, of course, free to install a task manager that kills things. There are several.

It's on the desktop.
Tap! <Conversations open>
Select active conversation
Tap! <Active conversation runs>
Type!

2 taps to resume any conversation. I dare you to point me to a faster phone.

And

Move it.

This is, in your view, a problem with the phone?

Get it fixed. What are you, masochistic? It doesn't work, return it to Care Centre. WTF?

Why come here and vent? It is not OK for a phone to reboot because you want to send an SMS. I have said this before. Get the sucker fixed.

Phone never BSODs. BSOD is a colloquial term for a STOP error, or bugcheck, a situation where the Windows OS stops all operations to protect your data because it detected an error either in your hardware or in a driver. This is not an unique concept, Linux has Kernel Panic, Amiga had Guru Meditation, MacOS also has a Kernel Panic, except it's useless in line with Apple's approach to debugging.

What the phone has is a watchdog. It reboots the phone if the OS isn't ticking so that you can still get incoming calls and messages and not find out 2 days later you were out.

Because of this time constraint, very-heavily loaded OS can be rebooted if it doesn't respond in time. Say, because someone was running a boatload of apps and ran out of memory, started swapping, was killed, needed to un-swap and missed the watchdog query deadline.

Under normal circumstances, self-rebooting phone is grounds for invoking RMA. (It's Return to Manufacturer Agreement).

Stop giving yourself so much credit. This isn't a review. It's a vent from an egocentric point of view of a person that is obviously incapable of reading the manual, asking for help (in a proper forum), or returning a defective phone. And who considers that 2 taps is "too much" to do something.

Reviews never contain "this is <expletive>" in them.

You have claimed that switching to 2G requires 5 taps, that starting messaging requires who knows how many, that menu is bulky and in disarray, that battery is poor, that it is full of bugs, that many apps don't work if you don't put a SIM "on" it [sic], that it doesn't have a YouTube app, and that Symbian 3 is a failure at everything.

None of those things are true.

Should you be writing "reviews"?