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Originally Posted by Keferen View Post
okay okay, i think a few of you have missed the point here. i am surrounded with all the latest mobiles. i own a n9. i bought it. why? i believe it can be greater than anything on the market.
what parts of the n9 and n900 am i comparing? basic out of the box functionality. clock, sms, contact list, music player, video player. every phone has these. who uses these core system apps? everyone. its comparing apples with apples *ahem*. how is this being negative or bitter? put your open source defender of the free world banners away for a moment. i even compared to android and ios.

i fully agree that the n9 device itself is pretty stunning visually. it looks sleek and space age. but that doesnt make it good. thats aesthetics. they put some time into that obviously as they are launching it as the windows phone too.

the ui swipe experience is something new too. its fast. its responsive. its interesting. im double tapping every screen to activate now.
but the other point i tried to raise was the n900 with keyboard closed is exactly the same as the n9, as with any other keyboardless android device and an apple. the n900 can be fully navigated with only the touch screen with only a few touches to get anywhere. the n9 ui experience doing the exact same things even with the all *new* swipe ui is painful. this is how i tested that part of it. currently the n9 swipe ui is cumbersome and gimmicky. i tested how much swiping was needed to be done to do the same on n9 <> n900 to see if there was a difference either way. try it for yourself side by side. the n9 ui could be minimum swipe friendly but its not. they missed the boat (the titanic? lol) on that one. and the 'fact' that the n9 is going to be the only meego device with support for the next 3 years means that the hardware like the n900 will be woefully obsolete quickly, no matter how flashy the outside of it looks. but the n900 ui will still be faster to use/navigate and android/apple phones will leap ahead in functionality.


@strange1712
thats what i thought too but they crippled the n950 ram wise


@Manatus
my idea for incoming phone calls still stands. if in your pocket or what not the proximity censor is still on so cant accidentally hang up or swipe away.

on your n9 open the browser and enter the url http://maps.google.com and click classic view (not mobile view). what just happened there? works fine on n900/htc desire/iphone4. sure the new browser is fast but its no good if it locks while rendering pages. it doesnt like iframes and renders tables with graphic fragments.
Point taken on proximity sensor. It indeed works well enough to guarantee that you don't accidentally swipe it to drop call.

I disagree a bit on browser thing; on my Desire Z built-in browser is pretty much useless even on some regular sites like www.androidpolice.com (desktop version). Doesn't matter if it is Cyanogen or stock rom. It lags, it sucks. I don't think that any of the current built-in browsers for any phone do everything right. But valid point still.
I tried aforementioned site with SGII and I was happy to see that it was smooth on Android vanilla browser, but it really took the juice out of the device and it turned really hot. (MicroB does fine.)

I disagree a lot about usability of swipe. For me it is completely different and more natural thing to do a physical motion that starts anywhere on that approx. 5 to 10 cm line that are the sides of the screen, than try to poke under 1x1 cm icons on the screen in a bus that is going this way and that under your feet, keeping your eyes on the device constantly. This same thing is painfully evident in those occasions when you actually have to poke that black small button smirking at you in the lower left corner of N9. So paradoxically N9 drives its point home by doing both. It proves swipe is superior, but then breaks its own rules (not intentional design flaw of course).
Small irks or not, most vital parts of UI with swipe is always better than no swipe at all, and you have to give credit for N9 for that.

Small details matter as every Apple user knows, and with swipe we are talking about very basic things in smartphone use, things that are used constantly, so it is not even a small detail in the end.
 

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