Agreed and I am afraid that talking about this derails the direction that thread was originally intended to go in. Guy posts, General comes on and say this thread already exists elsewhere, ITT forum noob tries to apologize/make amends/plead ignorance... this is like the 3rd or 4th time I have seen it... kind of annoying... I like the new version, video and youtube work much better, I LOVE Canola, and am glad to have all the apps I like back on there, camera, recorder, FM radio, Garnet VM, Pidgin... I do not seem to be having thumb board problems... Anyhow for me it is 2 thumbs, pointing to the stars