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	misterc	2012-02-05 , 10:28
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Originally Posted by ossipena

Actually nokia is burning helluva piles of money by keeping symbian development running. Running it down symbian releafs approximately 6800 employers nokia doesn't need to pay salary after this year. Care to calculate financials? 6800 people x 4250€(this is probably couple thousand euros too small. it is 2500€ plus employment costs in finland). Approximately 29M€ per month. Then employer naturally needs to pay 13 months salary per year in Finland. 3,7B€..... and what have they gotten with that ~4B€ in an year? A bit under 50% of Nokias revenues in 2011. Well, Belle has been installed to some phones, my N8 probably still waits the update, haven't switched it on for a while. It is a simple what if calculation: what if symbian was driven forward full speed without sacking people and the strategy fails even without ceo saying bad things about the os?

spring 2011 AT&T showed interest in selling the NOKIA X7 (if memory serves well) in the US... the 2nd largest provider of the country, so far having the iPotato monopoly in the US...
that was six months after the "burning platform" memo & a couple months after Flopocalypses... NOKIA turned it down

even though NOKIA Belle isn't outselling Android, not even iOS, objective mobile phone critics agree that the revamped Symbian starts to show promises and fans are getting quite excited.
more then you can say about LostDOS Paralyzed, isn'it?

Originally Posted by ossipena

I don't even know why I am hanging out here still, now it has been long enough from burning platform -memo to consider about everything that has been said and processing the shock about major changes in nokia. Processing major changes is always an issue for people who always tend to hang on tightly to something they have accustomed to. But after time passes one should start thinking about things more objectively and analyze why oneself has thought something and reassess if it was sane in the first place. Symbian will be buried, maemo will be testing platform for new ideas (as it has been all its life, only the usability has rocketed since 770 to at least nearly match any modern smartphone, maemo has always had some radical features nowhere to be seen in top seller phones) and WP will be the main platform.

indeed, NO REvolution, Evolution...
any stochastic change tend to be unbalanced (by definition) and tend to return... to the initial state or a condition close to it (see October revolution as a patent historical example...)
Flopocalypse was a revolution, NOKIA after the Flop will look very much like the NOKIA before it (Symbian or whatever is left of it and some foray into "disruptive technologies")
the longer they wait, the worse it'll be.
EDIT: who knows, maybe they'll fall back to boots...

and yes, iPhone & Co was a revolution...
the difference? already in 2007, Apple had the cash to afford a total loss at the small scale they started it.
that it is meanwhile the most sold smart phone (by individual device) is the result of a bet Steve Jobs was willing to make and could afford.

Originally Posted by ossipena

e: I forgot one essential thing with 3 letters:
IBM
http://www.economist.com/node/18805483

It hasn't been kept alive by hangin on to magnetic tapes, is it?

i shouldn't even bother, but, hell, got that far...
BIG BLUE isn't doing PCs, Laptops, tablets or the like anymore;
they outsourced that business to Lenovo, just like NOKIA outsourced Symbian to Accenture.
the Lenovo K800 has nothing repeat nothing to do with IBM
capiche?

but yes, BIG BLUE, just like HP, Xerox (GM?, Chrysler?) is one of the blue chips that has been around for a long time & most likely will still be around... in the future.

Last edited by misterc; 2012-02-05 at 10:35.

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