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Originally Posted by patlak View Post
Nokia had lots of Symbian sales which were increasing by the day. All they needed was a differentiating product at the high-end.
I would largely agree with that. The problem with Symbian was largely one of perception, rather than reality. If the first Symbian^3 devices had shipped with Belle, and Qt on Symbian were at the same level as it is now, things might have been different.

Originally Posted by patlak View Post
Enter N9 with the beautiful hardware and software symbiosis.
Hardware, yes. Software, no. As I said earlier, the die was cast when Nokia became distracted with MeeGo. Had they continued alone with Maemo, then (again) things might have been different. The N9 would have launched much earlier. Swipe UX and the stock applications would have been written using QML, instead of APIs that were deprecated before the device was even released, thus avoiding unnecessary fragmentation (that is even noticable to users as there are clear aesthetic differences between MTF applications and QtComponents applications) and improving extensibility and ease of maintenance.

Originally Posted by patlak View Post
Imagine N9 in all those ads and the response you'll get. Imagine the N9 and even N950 standing next to an iPhone in a shop. Imaging those free gifts in buying one, etc. MeeGo is doing pretty good with such a high price tag in low markets lacking any kind of advertising.
I never said otherwise (though I think that the idea of the N950 successfully competing with the iPhone is a stretch too far). I spoke only of what is, not would could have been.

Originally Posted by patlak View Post
BTW, Swipe UX is a part of MeeGo.
Cool. So I can install it on my $MEEGO_POWERED_HARDWARE?

Originally Posted by patlak View Post
You mention that to someone that is aware and they'll immediately associate it with MeeGo. So they do care about MeeGo.
My point is that 99% of the population (your figure) are not aware of MeeGo, and thus are unable to care about it. Also, those who are aware seem to be intent on re-branding MeeGo-Harmattan as Maemo6, so they don't seem to care much about MeeGo, either.

Originally Posted by patlak View Post
As to the BoD choosing Elop in saving the company, what is the current result? He didn't save it, he tore it to shreds and do they do something? I think they don't have any choice right now except having Microsoft engraved on their tombstone.

Relying on a third party OS with a 1.9% market share and destroying two of their own desired ones is pathetic,
I don't disagree with that. My comment was about the division of responsibility. It's a collective responsibility. Nokia and it's shareholders are to blame. Elop is a pantomime villain. The board run the company, and the shareholders own it.
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