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Originally Posted by Hurrian View Post
@xxxxts

Your use case has dramatically changed, then.

The N900, was a developer's platform - what other phone is out there, that has a hardware keyboard, works acceptably as a normal phone and can boot any ARM Linux distro you can find?
It's a geek's toy, clearly not aimed at the John S. Smith consumer.
And as you may have noticed, it is quite rough around the edges.
And yes, I will parade around the word: COMMUNITY COMMUNITY COMMUNITY. It's the one thing the N900 can still rely on these days. Same for the N9. It sucks, but Nokia doesn't seem too keen on making a Harmattan HE for the N900 like the NITs before it.

Oh, and before the N900, Nokia has had a history with pump-and-dumping Maemo users. Especially regarding the whole opennness thing. And the PowerVR MBX driver thingy.

And post-N900 (aka N9) - it's stillborn. Period. Nokia will probably cease updates after PR1.2 or PR1.3.
Had lots of potential though. What a waste.

Android, is well, Android. As long as you don't buy from Moto and HTC, and stick to flagship phones (hint: these cost the same price as Nokia flagships), you bet it'll stick on XDA for years.
The difference is just in the hardware, really.
It's pretty easy to use, and for aforementioned (modern) flagship devices, only massive autists care about the lag.

iOS devices are plain, simple things.
They work well enough to be a phone, and a platform for casual games (Infinity Blade is a b***h on a 3.5" screen)
However, doing serious geek things on them is a pain. Yes, I've tried. Yes, I've jailbroken all iOS devices in my house (wanna see them side by side with my N900?). The VKB takes up almost half the screen, and is tuned for daily typing, so any sort of CLI admin work is a real PITA.
(P.S.: The overclock video you showed was basically turning off power management. That's like "kernel-config limits 1150 1150")

tl;dr: Nokia does things half-baked (but lets 1337 users bake the other half if they wanted), iOS devices spoonfeed the user, Android devices are kind of a middle ground, given the right hardware and community.
#1 I am not making an argument. #2 If I was it has not changed.

When the N900 came out it was a developers phone, and it was top of the line in terms of hardware - top display resolution, front facing camera, competitive processor, excellent rear camera, Fennec (we were promised Flash 10.1), it was and still is an AMAZING device.

But I am all about practically. If I have a task I want to get done, I want to get it done in the quickest, most efficient way possible. When the N900 was released that option was given to me. I could go to https://facebook.com and easily navigate it. Now with the Timeline and all that nonsense, I need an app. Same with online banking, the list can go on and on.

The N900 just is not an efficent device anymore, not only by hardware specs but by Maemo 5's lack of features - I don't even have spelchek!!! For me personally that is a huge deal, I am a horrible speller.

For all of you guys talking about, "Well just boot into NITDroid!" - WHAT IF I GET A PHONE CALL??? NITDroid has been in development by some very smart and very amazing people and I still can't answer a call using it on my N900 - hence it is pretty worthless to me.

I really know next to nothing about iOS, I had the first gen iPhone for 4 days and returned it all those years ago, I asked to play with my buddies iPhone 4S and it was much more efficient than the N900, in nearly every way.

It does suck that I cannot run SSHd, X11VNC, etc. but you gotta weigh the pros and cons - from what I know iOS gives you more possibilities. It is very simple and mindless, however if it gets the job done then what's the problem?

And come on people - don't give me this nonsense about a keyboard, I am really ticked off that psychical QWERTY keyboards are going the way of the dinosaur, I really am. However - it is a PITA to connect the N900 to an external keyboard and the iPhone has this: http://youtu.be/GZPa8MBFKMA

What I was really hoping to come of this thread would be some kind of realism. "Yes, for many the N900 is not as useful anymore and there are better options; here they are;" But instead people are suggesting a still born OS (MeeGo), a dead OS (Maemo) and then making outrageous claims that are blatantly not true (neither one of those OSs are open, if you want to disagree with me on that claim show me the source code for the phone application).

I have always been an Apple ANTI-fan boy and a Nokia fan boy. But I am also a realist and it is quite obvious that Apple is offering a far superior product than Nokia. That cannot be argued with. Especially if you live in North America.
 

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