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Originally Posted by specc View Post
The point is that Nokia has moved on while fanboys are dwelling in the past. This site and AAS are rather amusing, in slightly different ways.

Then, like a lightning from a clear sky comes the 808 PureView with the most advanced camera technology ever to have seen the light of day. 80 patents protect this technology alone. I'm sure Steve L wet his pants of pure joy and excitement (and lots of AAS people with him)

Nokia today is WP, Lumia, Qt, S40, Meltemi. And it is still a whole lot of Symbian. It is very little Maemo/MeeGo left, but Qt lives on and a Linux core for Meltemi apparently lives on. But most of all Nokia is HW.

The 808 could very well be the last real smartphone. All new OS'es are heading in the "wrong" direction. HW is made according to software spec, not the other way around, and we end up with everything looking and working the same dull way.

Meltemi is made for mid to low end (according to rumors). But being Linux and Qt, there is nothing preventing Nokia from making special devices slightly out of mainstream using this OS. Devices similar to the 808 with out of bounds HW specs. Devices that simply cannot be made with Android/WP due to all the restrictions and slow paste of development. The SGSII is probably the best smartphone overall today even though it is getting old. But there is nothing special about it, it is still just like any other Android phone made according to Google specs.

There is lots of progress going on. Android is part of this, WP and Nokia is part of this. Maemo is not part of this, not anymore.
I'm not in total agreement with you on this, especially since Windows mobile is hardly "progress" (at least, so far as anything they've shown or planned on so far) and it's most certainly not emulating winning strategies. Nokia had the right idea to try to do SOMETHING to move ahead--but it's like watching a race where one of the athletes sees he's ahead but the others are catching up fast so his strategy is to suddenly slow down and match the pace of the SLOWEST competitor and agree to hold hands and kiss while everyone else wooshes past! And you have to admit that Balmer and Elop make an incredibly vomitous couple adding a creepy factor.

Despite all the talk about how they're crippled, Android and all the others are managing to QUICKLY catch up and (in MANY ways) are out-innovating and out-performing Nokia. It doesn't help that Microsoft insists on very, very limited and already outdated specifications for their platform which they've only RECENTLY loosened up on.

The one thing I wholeheartedly agree with you on: Maemo is, without question, the poster-child for stagnation thanks to Nokia and the lack of opening up many crucial portions of the system and software and thanks to decisions by Nokia to based the whole thing on hardware that was not open-source friendly. It's a shame a large company like Nokia didn't lead the way to MORE openness which they were keen to brag about repeatedly and publicly but failed to actually do most of the time. Nokia left MOST of the requests for open-sourcing dead on arrival, despite a promising wiki and invitation to request it, and effectively excommunicated the Maemo council, rending them impotent and unable to perform their stated duties despite Nokia's stated intentions once again. Remaining here and realistically asking 'what would you like to see in a Nokia N9 successor' is silly, seeing as how both Maemo and MeeGo have both been long abandoned by Nokia and crippled by the lack of open hardware support. That's truly "Stagnation." To illustrate contrast, I've repeatedly pointed about CyanogenMod--who has not ONLY gotten hardware support from many manufacturers (i.e. Samsung, who has not ONLY given free devices to CM developers but even hired the lead organizer/developer from CyanogenMod with the idea that they might even start using CyanogenMod INSTEAD of the stock Google system).
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