+1. Constructive collaboration - always welcomed, after all, we're inclusive.

Yet, if it would look like:

...with, additionally, Nokia (actively or passively) supporting this stance - then, a big no.

I think, that Nokia misunderstood few things here. For them, transition to Harmattan etc. focused community is natural, just like N7xx-n8xx to N900. Thus, we had actions like lending N950's to Maemo's developers, ideas of incorporating appsformeego here, (when nokia's execs lost interest in meego users - c'mon, we can call things realistically here, without all marketing "blabla") and so goes on.

For us, it's not natural nor similar to Maemo4-Maemo5 transition. For many people, new Nokia devices aren't choice to consider over N900/Maemo, due to decisions made by Nokia's high-ups (I don't think it's good place to prove again that N900 > N9/N950). Again, I don't have *anything* against peaceful coexistence and collaboration, yet, any "takeover" ideas should be fought with fire by Maemo Council, IMO.

By the way, "peaceful existence" consist of many small or bigger things - from cosmetic (yet, very irritating) matters - like forum "Active Topics" option, without possibility to filter by Maemo/Harmattan content - to "big" things like Nokia's showing will to incorporate us with appsformeego, without even considering to talk with Maemo Council about this (I don't said that it must be a bad idea - generally, no one ever *asked* what we think about it).

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This, + more important problem, like non-contactable Nokia's representative (I think Matti) - sorry for that word - screwed this on whole line - despite his statements, he wasn't even willing to answer invitations to meeting with Council, after only one and unfinished meeting during last 6 months...), and - even further important - uncountable people hired by Nokia to maintain technical side of infrastructure, resulted in strong "movement" into separating us as stand alone project (like LibreOffice separated from OpenOffice - having in mind scale differences). By the way, I'm pretty sure, that Matti wasn't even aware of how popular this "roadmap" become in Maemo Community - which,also shows, that there was Communication breakdown, not only some minor problems.
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Past things aside, I really hope, and - maybe naively - *do* believe, that with qgil taking active role now, we'll be able to re-establish successful (for developers, testers, casual users etc) collaboration. Yet, respect for us as a Community - with our right to decide what we want to focus on, or not - is a must. Also, despite our trust for qgil as a person, the same amount of "reliability" isn't common - to say at least - with Nokia, so keeping a backup plan B (proceeded further than just "few ideas") is Council responsibility, IMO.

At least, it can't hurt - not to mention, that even considering "surprise shut off" as a impossible scenarios, there are other, even worse things possible - like keeping current stagnation with infrastructure maintaining = need to move into our infrastructure no matter if Nokia's is willing to pay the bills or not. Bills aren't everything.

That's life. from my side, I do my best to express my intentions as possible Council member, so others have enough time to nominate and - possibly - choose opposite candidate, if they feel that's appropriate. Thinking like "we have to low number of candidates, so Council don't have right to make important, shaping future of project decisions" is just a way to send us nowhere, following wind-up scenario.

After all, no one is forcing plentora of people to nominate, especially with extended (by a month) nomination period. If no one cares to do it, we can assume that they're satisfied with current candidates. If they aren't, but also don't care to move a** and do dirty job as Council member (SD69 could tell You, how dirty it can be) - well, then, it's their problem.

/Estel