[jm2c] Qwazix, just my 2 cents, and, i think, perfectly on topic (i.e. something to chew on for the tbe council...) maybe you (the ppl developing & managing CSSU?) should rethink the naming strategy behind CSSU? drop the stable, it's obviously a joke but very misleading for someone who comes around, doesn't care to even create an account @ Maemo.org feels that if the CSSU testing is so often in the top ten active topics here, the stable version is the safer choice am i right in assuming the stable hasn't been looked at in a long time and is kind'a the PR1.1? whereas testing is PR1.2 or even PR1.3? drop the stable / testing part of the name & include a warning like in the PK (might eat up your brain, chew up your device et cetera et cetera et cetera) next step may be to make a basic version which solely include fixes (to PR1.3.1) and put the rest in a "plus" version. (drop the eat & chew up part from basic, maybe?) at which point it might be easier to offer CSSU basic to NOKIA as PR1.4, but, hey, that's just an idea on the side line... [/jm2c]