Thread: Nokia on the brink of failure
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2012-04-16 , 21:44
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Originally Posted by Lumiaman View Post
Wow. What a depressing conversation thread. At least for Nokia. I am actually much more positive about this. I think that this was well predicted, and that is why MS is giving NOKIA money, because NOKIA knew that Symbian wither fast, with or without Elop announcement, and MS money will help in transition.

The strategic alliance is not thinking quarters here, but many years. The true NOKIA-MS device was just released in the US, and more will come in the next 24 months. NOKIA is going thru transition, and it is natural that they will go through a nadir. I dont think NOKIA will go bankrupt, I do believe that they will rebound and BE a viable third ecosystem

All of this clearly depends on how well two companies interact together. If they dig in and work hard together, they will be successful. However, if finger pointing begins for poor results, that will be a disaster. Current financial results do not therefore predict much, and I still think that MS and NOKIA control their fate. My 50 cents
I will kill your hope of NOKIA and MS ever working together, the two companies are so different in culture and market that this is impossible. MS will go beely up first, and your assumption of the quick demise of the Symbian is also based on ignorance. The phones are all GSM phones, where all interfaces are according to STANDARDS. Ever heard of a standard that MS has agreed to adhere to? See how it has ignore TCP/IP for years? MS employees are former Radio Shack employees, ignorant with great ability to speak. NOKIA has developed their technology and contributed to the GSM standards. Their employees are PhD, code smith, with experience with those that buy their devices and the operators/carriers - and their systems.

The US has a problem that we cannot solve. We do not want a Marxist "ecosystem" - and I really doubt many Americans want it. So NOKIA as a very simple way out: Use Symbian for their phone - making all Qt coded apps available here, then work with Ubuntu and develop 2 Debian based variants - just upgrade the N900 with plain vanilla Ubuntu GNOME NotePad, and the N9 with the KDE. That should solve all issues related to availability of software.

The difference between these phones is in how the screen looks. Make my N900 a little bigger, fit with 2 batteries, increase CPU to 1.6GHz and keep the rest and call it N910. Do the same with the N9, and fire that reverse Pole. I left a company because the way my division made money caused envy, the reverse Pole should have the sense to know when to walk - when they still pay you for leaving, before they admit you and you plead insanity...