Yeah, in the middle of the logs, but that discussion is hardly relevant. Sure would be cool to have autobuilder for all maemo devices, but considering how Diablo now is almost forgotten... Fremantle needs another 'e' or it will wither like diablo. For council, I'd rather see either trying to achieve the free state, or coming up with possible solutions, or starting new threads for solutions ideas once all they came up with failed. Pro-active approach, not endless emails to contact@nokia.com just to write in the report: we did our best, sent 365 emails in this year for maemo-open-sourcing(366 as it's a leap year).