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	danramos	2012-05-04 , 05:52
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Originally Posted by K.Singh

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...84201120120503

My favorite line: "It's hard to break through. It's been harder than we expected," Chief Executive Stephen Elop told shareholders.

Are you kidding me? You took what was already a company in a downturn, you pooped all over your current offerings, married your product to the most losing platform out there (incredibly, doing worse than Blackberry and Palm!) and you have the audaciousness to exclaim that you expected it to be easier than this? Elop--you're an unbelievably stupid person and it's possible that you're clinically stupid if you can say such a thing openly where people can hear you in private much less out loud to the press and shareholders.

Originally Posted by Dared

“In spite of all challenges, the company has a real fighting spirit. The employees are proud of the company and of its new products,” he says.

Of course they are! There's so few of them left, I'm sure they're just FIGHTING to keep what's left of their jobs. Now THAT's pride!

Originally Posted by specc

Exactly, and it is no different in Europe. Nokia has been lazy, and ridiculously so. The whole idea of patents is it gives you a legal document so you can go out there and protect your inventions from exploiters and frauds like HTC, Apple and RIM taking advantage of your hard work. A patent is not some medal you get because you have been clever, and it gives you no protection. You have to actively go out there yourself and protect your rights when they are exploited by others.

Anyway, it didn't seem to have any affect on the stocks, lower than ever today

If only you were right. The INTENT of patents is to allow an inventor to protect their inventions and to profit from their ideas. In truth, they are simply a legal right to a monopoly over an "invention" whether or not you are the "inventor" or just a patent holder or some entity that holds the rights to said "invention." Even the word "invention" is used VERY loosely with regards to patents in this day and age. Some "inventions" are nothing more than an idea with no tangible or actual invention in fact. (i.e. business methods, software, etc. they're even skirting alongside discoveries pretending they're "inventions" like genetic information, for example.).

Oh what a f***ed up system it is. If ONLY it were used just to protect inventors and to promote inventions, instead of being used as a club to violently beat others over the head.

Originally Posted by somedude

Nokia puta really cracked me up while i am sitting in a Mexican restaurant having a dinner on a business trip. Thanks to that, needed a laugh after 9 he long meeting.

on topic:
i have money aside to buy a 100 shares of Nokia if some broker can provide me with real printed stock certificate. Exactly same as gerbick i know , its a coincidence only.

These things should be put into a little plastic sleeve and sold in a vending machine alongside similarly priced candy. I'm sure they'd sell more that way and probably be worth more as an image than as actual stock value, pretty soon!

Originally Posted by ajwatt

All of the companies you listed were started by American individuals with minimal budgets. So I ask you, why don't you go out and do the same?

For one, the banking meltdown might have put a severe hamper on start-up capital. Banks aren't willing to lend to start-ups anymore. Seriously--why don't YOU go out and try to see if you can help him raise capital for his start-up. It's not as easy as it was during the time periods when the start-ups he mentioned started up.

Originally Posted by ajwatt

Also, Europe has good car companies. VAG is on top, for one.

Heheheh.. They should have named a car the Lumia and used the VAG acronym to badge their car!

Honestly, today is the FIRST TIME I've ever heard of Volkswagen referred to as VAG and I laughed for a good few seconds before and after Googling it (safeword mode!). heheh Nice.

Originally Posted by Zoxir

It could be Nokia mierda just to show what's the value of the device and the stock, 2 in 1 and we all win

Now, now... they intended to convey cheap and trashy, not outright crap. Besides, I'm sure that name is already reserved for another Microsoft product somewhere.

Originally Posted by ajwatt

Honestly, we should expect nothing else form him. His words can have a direct influence on the stock value. If he had as much as hinted that he was questioning Elop's viability he would have sent the stock plummeting on speculation that there would be changes. So in short. this means nothing. For all we know, he is planning on dumping Elop tomorrow and putting Hologram Steve Jobs in charge.

Ooooo! Nokia should TOTALLY hire John Sculley!

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Nokia's slogan shouldn't be the pedo-palmgrabbing image with the slogan, "Connecting People"... It should be one hand open pleadingly with another hand giving the middle finger and the more apt slogan, "Potential Unrealized." --DR