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Ivgalvez, thanks for the reply. I don't think we really disagree, but I think I did not make myself very clear in my previous posting, reading back. (If only because typing forum reactions on my n900 brings in the typo's. En masse.)

this forum is precisely one the most "developer friendly" out there. You only need to compare with any Ubuntu or Android forums, both very popular products and because of that, used by a lot of different people.
I believe this forum used to be very much developers oriented. But next to that, it also used to have an approach that appealed to power users: with high level information available for those willing to learn: Id est, do research, formulate questions in a sound manner (device/problem description/analysis, the approach taken to tackle the problem, current state of affairs), in short, puzzle your way out of problems with the device. All that with the insurance there is always someone on the forum with more know-how and the willingness to share that knowledge. In short, a forum for people who want to learn or share knowledge.

Nowadays, my puzzling limits itself often to just trying to understand what a poster is saying in the first place. By the time I have figured out what it is, more often so than not, it turns out to be another case of laziness. And often I find replyers to the thread to be attacked by OP or other people who bump in to the thread. I believe that is not very encouraging for those in-the-know, to keep sharing what they can. On the contrary, it encourages them to stop helping. As a result threads are being bumped by OP's because nobody even cares to look at the questions any more, and you can simply wait until someone who is slightly or much-less-in-the-know will post the advice to simply "rm -f /".

To be honest, I don't see an easy way to stop it,
Have a look at the Ubuntu forums, where they have made a clear distinction between beginners questions and the rest. I don't feel we need to become a Gentoo-like forum, where a beginner gets an RTFM to it's head, if it doesn't know how to emerge -world. But somewhere, there must be a compromise that works, that enables beginners to learn, and advanced users to stay interested. After all, the problems advanced users help solve, often are problems they do not have themselves. There must be an incentive for them to keep helping.

Also, please understand that I am not calling for some kind of grammar-nazism to be installed on the board. But a certain level of grammar control should not be too much to ask for. After all, we're trying to communicate. It's a waste of energy to need 6 postings in a thread just to get the content of the OP clear.

just patience my friend.
I'm afraid that implies a vision of future improvement, otherwise it would just be a call for tolerance of ignorance.

I would suggest a beginners forum with some clearly marked stickies, where basics are explained. With basics I mean, a collection of links to relevant wiki pages, faq's and the like, a primer on posting, do's and don't's; basic protocol stuff.

Last edited by anthonie; 2012-05-17 at 11:44.
 

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