Do you know how they do the vote? Is there any way possible of getting some of the facts Tomi Ahonen has been putting out there, to the shareholders? I actually believe that Elop has taken Nokia over the cliff now - even if he is fired i'm not sure how they can regroup - unless they get an absolute visionary like Steve Jobs. But getting Elop out of there would be a start Then the next step would be to *somehow* get out of the microsoft deal