abill the reason why a new thread is not being started by us is due to us not wanting to be split...you see all the attention is already on this thread and people are voicing out here...a new thread will effectively discard all the discussion here and make things messy... the solution is simple...look at those who were undeserving of the device including 3 out of 4 council members. Just 2 of them need to give up their devices to itsnotabigtruck and e-yes to soothe thngs over... BUT the Council looks to be ignorant at worst or naive at best for those on the outside...not an attack but the general impression one gets when you see such debate being done just because 2 ppl don't want to give up their n950s to more deserving people who have and will continue to benefit the community... Edit: Before someone gets the wrong impression, I absolutely agree that SD69 deserves his award. He's been the unsung hero of the community and nobody at all berudges him his long-deserved award. This award is the least the community could give him.