Saw us how? We live in 4 different countries, physically hundreds to thousands of miles apart? I was the only one on IRC most of last week, excluding the meeting (which was logged pre and post above). I'd really love to know how you have such good track of everything, because right now I'm having a hard time keeping up with what's going on.

Actually, the winners list was sent well before the Council meeting on Friday (at 18:00 UTC), as you can see from the logs in the link above. Ivan notes at 21:18 that it was already sent, and that I was clearly out of the loop for not knowing that and what had happened with Fcrochik's device from the night before. And yes, apparently there was some issue and Quim had to be poked to check his mail (it apparently got filtered in some way). I didn't find out about that until just a bit ago either.

Again, I ask: What would you have me do? Rise up and rebel against Council, and Quim, and the community at large? Most of the community actually seems to agree with all this, including the Nokia rep handing out the devices. Should I champion a group of people that have done little but insult and attack the community volunteers getting these awards, if not me personally?

Despite your claims to the contrary, I've counted all of about twenty non-Council people on TMO that have bothered to post on this topic, despite it being #1 on the chart for most of the past 5 days. The result (based on people posting, not number of posts) was a pretty even split, for and against. Of the 8 people on IRC that said something about it, 4 were negative, 4 positive, and all but 2 of them chimed in on the TMO thread as well.

I really don't see a ground-swell here wanting to rip devices from people's hands to give them to others. I see a small group of people, many with misunderstandings on what CA was even about. I'm not saying there aren't valid concerns, but when all those concerns were discussed and decided in the distant past (including by at least one of the people whacking the bees nest now), it seems a bit off to me. If anything, most people who have commented to me are just fine with how things went.

I'll note, with one exception, nobody is refusing their award. And his refusal came before this debate started; and as far as I know is unrelated to his feelings on this matter, if he has any.

I find it wonderful that you're one of the few people that actually picked up that this was for past deeds. So many of the other posts were about what were these people promising to do to get the devices... and what apps had they developed. Again, as I stated, I didn't consider current status as Council in my decision. But who cares about the facts, or reads what I write anymore? I'm part of Council, and therefore a crook and cheat, right?