I think you missed a post. The accusation against Estel by SD69 was a misinterpretation of what was said in other e-mails and communications. Estel said quite clearly, very early on, that he was participating. I think you and Gerbick both missed this point. And yes, there was some internal spitting going on with this topic too. So congrats to all on not only ripping the community apart, but also sewing disharmony in the group that's supposed to be working together to keep things going and keep the lights on, should that be needed in 6 months. Bravo. What's that group of farmers with the pitchforks over there doing? And why are they carrying torches?