regarding Dell.....try 6 weeks for me (ordered Nov27th) and they've still got no idea when they're coming. Read someone said March. If you've got a lot of free time, patience and want to save some money then I guess Dell might be an option; anyone else that wants to save their sanity over inefficency and down right lies with shipping dates, then look for other options. I ended up switching to Buy.com and I'm supposed to get my N810 tomorrow :-)