after learning of the 800, i was excited; came here to learn how to get the most from it. instead i see so many probs, im totally intimidated. i dont need another hobby. i wanted a tool. the list of probs seems huge. the price is rite and features seem better than the 810. fixes and topics all seem so fragmented, patchy, and incomplete..linux on ipod is just a novel hobby; its player cant compare w/apple player, and the things it does is still really clunky..maybe not accurate comparison. delete this if you want..i might get it for the things advertised.. hate carryin laptop for simple surfing, etc..itouch or anymore apple is outta the question