Thread: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
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2012-07-17 , 13:57
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Originally Posted by NokiaFanatic View Post
Firstly, I think you have absolutely ridiculous expectations and secondly, I don't think you "get" what Jolla are trying to do.

On the expectation part, you do realise that Jolla are a tiny start-up with about 100 employees (Nokia have over 100,000 employees, Apple over 20,000 employees, even RIM have 10,000)? Even with 10,000 employees, do you think it's even remotely possible to build and test an entire device, OS and features from scratch and bring the product to market in one year?

As for what Jolla are trying to do, they have made it perfectly clear that they are trying to bring a true flavour of Linux to a phone. Whether it's x86/ARM or dual/quad core is completely irrelevant. What we're talking about here is delivering a more open, more powerful, PC like experience to a mobile device. If we get that, on any kind of remotely decent hardware, I will probably buy it. The alternative is a dying platform (Harmattan) or a platform that is vapourware (Tizen).
Well, as ridiculous as my expectations may seem, that is my expectations for any "alternative" to existing top of the line products. I may go for lower specs, no problems, but then the already existing S40 line of Ashas seems like a much better "alternative". Remember, Jolla is going for a closed device, it will not be open in any sense of the word. Sure they use an OSS core, Mer, but Android is also running on an OSS core.

Just "different" means nothing to me if that "different" include a closed OS on a mediocre device on a non existing ecosystem. Why would anyone buy such a device? It will be like a bad copy of Bada (another closed system running on a almost non existent ecosystem). It would be worse, it will be like the cheapest Bada device out there. There is absolutely nothing inspiring about such things.

My whole point is you have to do things right, or no one will purchase it. The recipe is simple:

1. Create an ecosystem, music, cloud services, mail, movies, maps etc etc or something completely new.
2. Create apps for that ecosystem on existing devices (Android, iOS, WP, Symbian, S40 dumb phones. PC, tablets)
3. Create a device that utilizes that ecosystem out of the box + a nice API for apps.

OR

1. Create a bad *** device, a HW monster like the N900 (almost was) with top of the line browser and connectivity to utilize other ecosystems. This is preferably done with open source. The pieces already exist, Alien Dalvik for instance.


The recipe is simple. I didn't say the execution is simple or cheap. But that is what it takes. Either you create an ecosystem, or you leech from other ecosystems. If your solution involves no ecosystem, it's already DOA. I believe a bad *** HW monster is viable. It doesn't need to look good, there is no need for 8mm thickness or exotic materials. A brick like the N900 will do just fine, as long as the internals are top.