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specc	2012-07-19 , 11:04
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Originally Posted by switch-hitter

Why would anyone assume WP8 is going to be a success anyway? Wasn't Mango supposed to be a game changer before that came out? It's always the next iteration that's going to change everything isn't it?

And let's face it in the unlikely circumstance WP8 does become a success in 2013 Samsung will just ramp up their production of WP8 devices. By that time NOKIA will be so small comparatively they simply will not be able to compete with Samsung's economies of scale.

Anybody that says NOKIA didn't have an option except to walk this path only has to look at Samsung to know that's not true. You only have to go back to early 2010 and, in terms of smartphone sales, Samsung were smaller than HTC never mind NOKIA. Now look at them towering above NOKIA who were by far the biggest back then. Samsung are announcing a record breaking quarter whilst NOKIA crash and burn. NOKIA painted themselves into a corner whilst Samsung kept all options open.

Exclusively adopting a low-functioning OS that had already proven to be a failure for at least three other major manufacturers was never likely to be a winning strategy and NOKIA's resulting crash is not the least bit surprising.

There's very little NOKIA can do to turn it around either now, their hardware is still good but they've lumbered themselves with an OS that most people just don't seem to want.

True, but there has been written lots and lots about WP7 vs WP8. I don't have the sources here right now, but in essence it's like this: Almost immediately after the launch of WP7 the development of the OS stagnated. Lots of smaller improvements have come, but none that truly fixes the core problems of the OS. Those problems are tied to the lack of security in CE, and cannot be fixed without a complete redo of the entire OS. That redo would result in a NT type of OS, so the answer was given - use NT instead. So the focus shifted from WP7 to WP8 almost immediately after the launch and increased in power when Nokia came.

But WP8 was far into the future when Nokia came. Way too far for Nokia to wait. So they decided to use WP7 as a stop gap, and to build up and strengthen the ecosystem throughout the entire world. The Lumia series hasn't exactly been a success, but the ecosystem-building has. Everything is ready for the launch of WP8. Services in all parts of the world and 100k apps, and everything in time for Windows 8 and the Surface.

Samsung will go at it with full power, that's true, but it is also a big advantage for both MS and Nokia. But Samsung is not that strong. What Samsung got is the Galaxy S3, they got nothing else, nada. Nokia got PureView, and it scares the **** out of anyone.