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Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
I'm an American. And xenophobia is not exclusive to Europe.

The whole "piss on Nokia" is because Nokia has pissed on itself.
He clearly misspoke, then:


Originally Posted by Lumiaman View Post
Nobody says there is no xenophobia in America. Just less of it. Yes, Nokia pissed on itself prior to Elop.
And during Elop's reign as well. Everyone else is also pissing all over Nokia, including Microsoft themselves. It really couldn't be helped, though. They made it so easy when they decided to stop trying to catch up to everyone else by competing on innovations, customer service and business savvy and instead put all their faith in Microsoft to save them.



Originally Posted by Lumiaman View Post
Originally Posted by Dared View Post
I have, and there is no way i would buy one. The 2 biggest things i use -mass storage mode and Bluetooth transfer, don't exist, for that reason alone i would never buy one

Lumiaman, you do know that the lumias have the highest return rate of any phone in Nokia's history. Why would this be the case if it's so good?
Mass storage and bluetooth transfer are your concerns? I am laughing hard
Tactful avoidance to a question can sometimes speak volumes. This was one of those moments.

Originally Posted by specc View Post
But tell me, and be honest. Why are you all so damned negative?
Could it be two words: past performance? So far, you're still in the incredible minority despite your assurances that you're not and despite your so-far-empty assurances that you have accurate facts to back your claims. Your claims haven't been bearing out, even by Nokia's latest reports.

But let's look at a pretty good statement here:
"Nokia's own CEO says that for several weeks already towards the end of Q2, Nokia's own Lumia sales had stopped growing. That was 'Peak Lumia'. On a Quarterly basis, the 4 million was it. There won't be more growth now. Now we are seeing the decline. Now the last lies are exposed, AT&T did not sell two million, rather closer to one tenth of that amount haha. And now that Microsoft has kindly Osborned all Lumia units, we will see a dramatic decline. Some carriers have already resorted to literally one penny deals, others have stopped total Lumia sales like T-Mobile Germany (the biggest carrier/operator in Europe's biggest country and very big Nokia client). And the smart ones, like Verizon (biggest carrier in USA) or China Mobile (biggest carrier in the biggest country on the planet and biggest smartphone market, China) laugh as they refused to take any Lumia and never got into this quagmire of upset customers."
How can you NOT want to see a company like Nokia fail if they treat their products, their customers and their own employees the way they did? At least the good news is that there are that many fewer people to be effected by their failure who have moved on to other jobs or careers with a better future (even flipping burgers seems to have a far more positive outcome lately).
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