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Originally Posted by switch-hitter View Post
This post seems to stem from your own inate sense of cultural superiority rather than any logic.


I don't see any need to apologise for Symbian, whilst Symbian was NOKIA's primary platform they towered over the opposition. Maybe not in the US but most everywhere else on the globe. Now even tech sites like ZDNet and betanews are questioning whether NOKIA should back pedal.

For me it was obvious from day 1 WP7 wasn't ready to compete in advanced markets like Asia and Europe and it's hardware requirements would also make devices too expensive for other strong NOKIA markets like India and Africa.


It used to be 'Android has many manufacturers' until Samsung overtook Apple, now it's 'Android powers many models'. Now in some markets, like here in the UK, just one of Samsung's many Android phones, the Galaxy S3, now outsells the iPhone on its own.


Symbian's installed base is still around 300 million, Android has only recently overtaken that and iOS is still miles behind.

Symbian competed very well with Android and iOS, as it proved coming out on top quarter after after quarter right up until it was deprecated. Sure NOKIA had market share erosion but there was no evidence to suggest an imminent nose-dive and crash.

Furthermore Samsung, HTC, LG, Motorola, Sony and others do make some extremely nice hardware, even NOKIA's market share erosion was not necessarily directly attributable to Android v Symbian.

Devices like the 5230 and 5800 were solid and good value rather than exciting. We had to wait quite a while for the N8 to pitch up and even that had rather modest hardware (camera excepted) compared to other devices hitting the market at the time.
The sad part is that Symbian was NOT competing. It was simply being displaced by overwhelmingly superior forces. Pre-Elop nokians simply slashed prices to give it a little more life. It was a matter of time before Symbian, dead as soon as iPhone was produced and Android copycats, and unable in 5 years to even come close to android and iOS , was going to perish. I was a big Nokia supporter but even before iPhone showed up it was clear that their software writing skills were suboptimal. So don't delude yourself that Symbian was competing. It was not.