For once, we agree on both points. (Although, I own both--and still do.) Frankly, there's very little else left to really talk about on a daily basis on talk.maemo.org that's relevant to the end users that joined here over the years. All that Nokia's basically leaving us with is with a deprecated OS we can't upgrade, on aging hardware that we can't upgrade, and a brand name to watch sinking in the stock market as it makes all the most stupid, wrong decisions)

Welcome to talk.maemo.org, new people! ...If there's such a thing anymore.

It's Windows Vista all over again! ...And Microsoft Kin all over again! ...And Microsoft Zune all over again! ...And so on and so on. What? Just saying--they've dumped money into stuff like this before and failed miserably. Man--I remember how HARD they pushed that Zune. Remember when MS forbid Apple products on campus and Balmer even forbid his family from owning Apple-anything? Didn't that work out AWESOME for them? I'll bet they're still totally rockin' Microsoft Bob somewhere in that home!