No worries, I can find my way around these forums and use search mething for first time only after PR1.3 problem. This time II however failed to find, or understand, anything related enough I am also greatly irritaded by people asking questions already answered page or two earlier, but it should be considered whether an aggressive answers like the quoted one here are the best welcome for new members. And this community really does need needll new members it can get. The smilies were good addition and made the point clear, though Thanks, for advice, as I like my setup I'll let it be the way it is and see if any updatd fixes it. Toggles are perfect for me anyways right now already.