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Originally Posted by Lumiaman View Post
...what people want on this forum is in many ways selfish...
Won't lie, we agree here. Selfish is brought upon mostly by having to deal with walled gardens and limited ecosystems that give us less control and demand more of our money. That's not a sustainable ecosystem honestly. Even iTunes had to diversify to keep people interested.

Elop saw WP8 as a way to cut thru the incompetence of Nokia in creating what masses want.
Wait. I thought it was WP7 that Elop sold as a way out of the hole they had dug? Now it's WP8?

Nokia is not a software company.
Symbian, Maemo, the best WP7 apps in market (Nokia Drive is pretty damn nice, so is City Lens)... I mean dude. Seriously. Not even Microsoft is in Silicon Valley, so that's not an accurate description of who's competitive.

Elop killed Symbian, laid off all of the MeeGo people, killed a lot of their software devs, kept a few that are churning out decent WP7 projects and your stance is quite flawed in that one aspect.

All I hear here is Elop hate. It's misdirected, shallow and myopic. Elop has to produce profit with a company that can't make software for the masses.
Elop did the worst thing possible. He killed a product and had no product ready to replace it that very same day. February 2011 will forever been the day that he killed all sales of Symbian and didn't offer anything in its place.

That's almost as bad as the Osborne effect. He talked about what was wrong, what they were not going to sell any longer, didn't say what they had in the wings. He offered nothing, not even an upgraded version.

Give solutions here, not just Elop bashing diatribes.
Well, WP7 didn't help. WP8 ain't gonna help (we'll have to see). This has turned into where the solutions have not been well received by the folks that have the money and customer loyalty for Nokia products are at an all-time low.

Thus the vitriol. Nothing has worked to help Nokia so far yet brought up by Elop. Time for a switch man. Do something new or different.

Last edited by gerbick; 2012-09-10 at 01:07.