^ yup, dude.. I know. I agree with you. I was talking specifically about "this time" and "iPhone 5".. did you read my post?

it actually points to the fact that Steve jobs could do it better, design it better, present it better, and create the hype even better. This time, it just looks like Timmy boy was trying hard to sound as ambitious as Steve, but it didn't work.

we already saw those MP3 designs.. Those touch screen innovations.. Forget about copying, the whole world already caught up. Apple should have created something unique, just to keep their name.. They just couldn't.

actually, it would have sold much better if the presentation was like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXr1kmuqGcU&sns=em

:P