Having looked at the 5 year stock trend it is pretty horrendous but who knows, maybe WP8 could be part of the solution, one things for sure though, even with the best efforts of Nokia, this is not the way to do it.

Lumiaman: "iPhone 5 is outselling Nokia ... idiot proof iOS. Only WP8 offers idiot proof phones for Nokia."

Specc: "Then what in f*ucks name are you doing in an off topic thread about Nokia stock ? And who cares about your sorry attempts at making (fart)apps anyway. On WP we have real apps So get out of this thread"

Calling Nokias customers idiots and calling their competitors customers idiots and insulting the very small time developers that Nokia need to start to regrow their value and lost reputation is probably not the way to do it.

All I can say is if these two characters work for Nokia then Nokia has a lot more serious problems than just the stock price and if they don't work for Nokia then I feel sorry for whatever companies they do work for, I certainly know what I'd do if they worked for me.

I am not even sure why they hang out in a Maemo forum if they like WPx so much?

rgds