@Lumiaman I am fairly sure no one would wish Nokia to fail, I bought Nokia N900 cause it suited what I wanted, Maemo was almost perfect for my uses and the hardware was excellent. My previous phone to that was Symbian (p910i) and I swapped it in a heartbeat for the first nearly properly open phone. WPanything will never be that. I don't care if Maemo was a niche but fun phone for some, for IT peeps I think it was perfect and it certainly seems to have attracted a fair number of downloads. Nokia was happy trying different avenues, some might call it R&D but at least they were trying new and varied approaches which is the hallmark of a vibrant company, worthy of investment. Today I think you are right to say Nokia is going nowhere ... which is a real shame, anyway some light reading which appears to be on topic in an off topic world. http://www.communities-dominate.blog...-elop-now.html rgds