Actually -- an advantage of KDE is that it makes for a real Linux computer on a palm top -- the world really opens up at that point. But for PIM stuff like Kontact, etc.? I think without a suspend or hibernate kind of capability that allows me to press a button and fairly quickly have my KDE desktop available the PIM functionality is a tough sell. If I need to post an appointment or grab contact information my trusty ol' Palm was instant "on." My N810 -- which I really have been enjoying -- requires a boot up of the OS .... then starting KDE ...... then starting the PIM app.... takes a very long time relatively speaking. How do the die hard KDE'ers use the PIM support in real life? Perhaps I'm missing something. Thank you! Frank