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Originally Posted by thedead1440 View Post
You wanted evidence against Estel_? I would say you followed almost 0 of the drama that was on-going before his ban to ask for such.

From what I read on mailing lists too, he didn't delete his posts but the mods deleted his extremely insulting and rude posts (along with one of mine and one from woody too which were posted as retorts to him).

His first ban if you followed it was just for a few days (3?) known as a cooling-off ban to calm him down after all the FUD he was spreading here.

However, instead of taking the ban and then coming back what he did was to create another account called letse and posted using it which is clearly against Forum Rules. He admitted to creating this account FYI. This extended his ban period from 3 days (I can't remember exact figure) to a month. After he was given this ban he claimed that he created this second account to speak to Board of Directors to complain against the mod/admin who banned him. Does it mean that just because he's an old member here and knew someone in the BoD he can circumvent his ban this way while the rest of us if banned should wait for the ban to expire? Even if you don't see anything wrong in his FUD surely his feeling of entitlement was wrong.

After this, another account was again created and seemed like Estel again at which point the mods did the necessary checks and banned the other account without increasing Estel's ban period again and he was told on the mailing list by several people not from Council to think what he was actually speaking about.

IMO, he should have been given infraction points much earlier but he was allowed to spread FUD for quite a long period of time before the mods felt he had gone over-board.
Funny, how much FUD, personal views (wron, BTW), and overall lack of having a clue about matters you're talking about; one can put into single post.

Generally, I don't have much to say about this matter - facts are, that two innocent people got banned *eternally*, due to living in same country as me (funny enough, they'ree still banned, while I'm here...). One of said people, got also all his contribution (all his posts) deleted too (posts from technical discussions about Maemo, mostly), despite having positive thanks ratio.

The latter, was due then-moderator - not administrator of Board - was too lazy to follow board rules . He used "one-touch ban&clean" - tool, that was meant to be used *only* against automatic spambots, *never* - users - which resulted in total annihilation of all content, ever posted by JCDenton.

Administration never had balls enough morals to admit mistake and pardon those users. Council&Board never cared - after all, it was time, when it still wasn't sure if Reggie is going to hand-over TMO database, so they didn't wanted to irritate him.

After all, it's all politics, no different in our little FOSS project, that anywhere in real life - who would care about some random two users.
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If anyone want to make own mind - instead of "buying" what I've just written, or fairy-tales sold by thedead or simillar "fans of current estabilishment" - everything is easily to be found in mailing list thread, starting from this letter:
http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/mae...er/005696.html
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If anyone care, (I certainly don't!) as for my ban, "excuse" used by then-moderator, now administrator, was this exact post:
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...2&postcount=48
So much about freedom of speech in FOSS project - feel free to ban me again, for posts that I'm currently writing.

No much difference, as it's last I have to say about this matter - everything is in archived sourrces (mailing list), and it's enough, for everyone, to make own mind. Further discussions are for wanna-be politicians only, which I'm glad to *not* take part in.

/Estel
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