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jalyst	2013-02-11 , 05:45
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Originally Posted by thedead1440

Take it easy people; the questionnaire is in the process of being answered and with FOSDEM taking up their time + illness (Stskeeps) its not been easy

So relax and wait for it; the answers will come definitely... They care

So you know for a fact that they've even bothered to read/answer some of it?
I hope they're not taking the attitude; "Oh well, they can just wait till MWC for SOME answers." Starting to feel like deja-vu again :-/

Originally Posted by mikecomputing

Ofcourse this should open technologys so they can be ported to whatever OS people use on desktop. But atleast on start it should support KDE. Both KDE and Jolla would win alot to cooperate on this.

Not a entirely bad idea, so put it in the relevant doc or communicate it to them...

Originally Posted by herpderp

in the smartphone era lots of your users don't even have a PC.

PC form-factor or hybrids aren't going anywhere anytime soon, many folks will continue to have more than just a smartphone or pure tablet.

Supporting KDE would be a waste of resources, as the userbase is so very small.

Not if it creates a good base from which to easily port to other major desktop platforms...

Originally Posted by ajalkane

But is Sailfish any different than Ubuntu in this regard? In fact, isn't Ubuntu better here. From all that's been read Sailfish core UI is closed source

From what I've read so far, Sailfish is just as open source....
Except Jolla will have some closed stock apps, so they can differentiate from other vendors that want to use Sailfish, or so they can license their flavour of Sailfish.
Agree with all your other points though, esp. the part about eventual collaboration, I really hope that happens, & in a genuine/comprehensive way.

Originally Posted by Ken-Young

Jolla will release their N950 version for developers to use - never, apparently.

Eh? They're targeting more than the N950, & the basis for Sailfish (Nemo) has been available for yonks now.

Ubuntu has an SDK and sample native app available for download at their website now. At Jolla's website, you can view a collection of twitter posts.

Jolla's already confirmed that the SDK will be available by the end of this month...
Agree about Jolla's site though, if it's a reflection of their UX_design & coding prowess, I'm worried.

Both companies seem to have a beta version of their code running on an existing phone, which looks nice in a demo video. What makes you so sure Jolla is way ahead of Ubuntu?

The fact that just a few weeks ago Canonical was saying they wouldn't have their OS on their phone till early 2014.
That changed in the last week or so, now it'll supposedly be as early as October...
Besides, these guys aren't direct competitors (initially at least), Ubuntu's made clear that they're focusing only on the low-end.

Originally Posted by Ken-Young

Is Jolla, which has exactly zero end users now, really preferable to Ubuntu just because they haven't released anything to hate yet?

Not really true to argue they have zero, one could argue that they certainly have more mobile chops than Ubuntu, by virtue of Maemo/MeeGo/Qt_mobile etc.

Originally Posted by Ken-Young

Why, after all these months, have they not bothered to bundle up these components, and provide something like a virtualbox image with the required components so that persons wishing to develop for their platform don't have to roll their own SDK?

Again, see my earlier response, this is coming at the end of this mth, this was all covered at FOSDEM.

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