These seem to be used N900s, repackaged as new. But you can tell immediately from the box that they were not sealed at the factory. For instance, see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Xd7IVCV3Jg I basically assume any N900 on ebay, and especially coming from Hong Kong, being sold as "new" is one of these used units. I have read here that Negri Electronics N900s actually are new, but that was based only on a single comment, as I recall. Those go for about $250.