Please don't continue that discussion, it's getting WAY off-tangent, there's other "general discussion" threads. Stick to the original charter of this thread please, which is to drill-down & focus on: Sailfish(Jolla) Ideas/Qns, Concerns/Criticisms* Document them, get them answered/resolved, document that, wash/rinse/repeat etc... *based on known facts, or at the very least; well-informed inferences, but even then we shouldn't go there unless there's nothing else to knock-over