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juiceme is offline juiceme
2013-05-11 , 23:48
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Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
Not trying to pick apart your statement; but for a "crippled" OS, Android has a lot more stuff going for it - app-wise, development-wise and otherwise. Tizen is very open - SDK and source code are released and housed by the Linux Foundation. That's much more than MeeGo or Maemo offered.
Most Android devices can be opened AFAIK but there is no single supported way to do it, the process of rooting a device is more a hack in practice. This is why I consider Android a crippled platform.
And even when rooted, it's not your standard linux distribution, where you are used to get just about anything in there by installing a deb or a rpm package...

Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
The openness of Tizen on the licensing side though [ read more here ] is sorta up in the air - I'm personally impressed that I can use C++, Java, Adobe AIR, HTML5/jQuery and with a myriad of tools. Same for Android to be honest. Same for BlackBerry10 as well.
Until I see something concrete here, I will not hold my breath on the openness of Tizen. In the article you linked, Rasterman mentions that Tizen may be locked down due to company policy. If that does not happen, I am happy though.

As for Blackberry, that device is not linux, it's irrelevant to me.

Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
The UI is always important. Especially in a touch device. If you wanted just a terminal on a phone device, I'd suggest that you research how much of a minority you are in regards to marketing and buying power.
Nah, you're just wrong. Fluid user interface is nice to look at and operate, but that's just surface. What's important is that you have easy access to the real workings of the device, that you get things like access to the databases and call control from the command line using DBUS messages for example.
Why I consider it important; it makes prototyping so easy, you don't have to spend time in irrelevant details but rather can experiment with the things that come up to your mind using scripting languages and standard text-processing tools.

Maemo and Harmattan are far from fully open but they do get few things right; easy access to real command line, SW installation with real package management, ability to build and run your own kernel, documented interfaces to many internal interfaces.

As far as I have gathered information on Sailfish, opennes there is at least par with Maemo/Harmattan, propably more so. Even as I live and breathe Debian, I am ready to go RPM way if that's the price I need to pay.

I admit I might be in a minority but that does not mean my views are not relevant. For me the device openness is the most important thing. I have stated this before; it's not important to have the fastest core, not rhe flashiest GPU. Just fast enough is good enough, I value more long battery life and solidly built HW.
My dream device would have all GNU SW, all GNU FW and all GNU HW.

Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
User interface and user experience can make or break an entire platform.
Well WP8 has an user experience. Do you consider it a success?