Another possible factor here is that Nokia still wants to sell phones, and most phones have PIM stuff on them. If you have a Nokia phone, you don't need other PIMs, so why bother to put them on the N8*0? Poor logic, and I don't maintain PIM infor on my phone, but it may be some of the thinking. The only thing I have on my phone is phone numbers - I don't use the calendar or anything else, because it's too much trouble on a tiny device, and I can't sync it to my PC, so it's useless for me. Give me robust PIM support and a good password manager that can import my current passwords, and I can give up my Palm. My phone won't cut the mustard, and I don't want a smartphone, or a data plan.