No, the password I tried to set up in Konsole does not work. Su did ask for password. I input the password I thought I might have created but it didn't accept it. It ended up giving me /home/user # What I don't understand about this password thing is that it seems so hard to have a clean starting point with it. It's as if KDE comes with a secret password that I have to dig somewhere to figure out. Like Konsole telling me that Password can not be changed. Sorry, I'm a Windows convert where I would have some sort of interface that would ask me if I would like to use a password and what I would like it to be. I sort of am just assuming that the rest of you find this rather easy. Could you fill me in? Neil