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Originally Posted by pichlo View Post
I see it as a gamble. They could have gone with Android and become Yet Another Android Vendor™. They chose to stand out by choosing a loser that no one else would touch with a barge pole, hoping that their past reputation and their superior hardware would bring the Windows Phoenix from the ashes. Unlike Mr. Lumianian though, I do not see any sign of that gamble paying out yet.
Yet Another Android Vendor™ like Samsung, LG, Asus, HTC, and every other company doing far, far better than Nokia and, in many cases, making their own differentiated flavors of Yet Another Android™ and the hardware that runs them.

What are you trying to argue in favor of?

Originally Posted by Lumiaman View Post
What is this open versus closed delusion? The only reason Android has such domination is because they copied what MS did to Apple ages ago, by just being software company and providing their OS to multiple manufacturers. The same model that MS did for PCs and tries to do now. Android just got there ahead of MS, and is riding high. Openess is important in your minds, but not in the business models.
I don't seem to remember Microsoft ever opening up the source code to Windows in large or smart part to the world. They weren't as "open," as you seem to repeatedly suggest unless you mean being able to install software from any source--which Microsoft intends to fix with their Windows 8 Microsoft app store and related lock-down of the system. It doesn't seem to be as embraced by the public as they'd hoped, though. There seems to be a big difference there which might make Android a far more of a solid replacement for the foreseeable future--it's largely open-source AND able to install software from other sources besides Google's own. By contrast, Blackberry and Apple closed-source everything and locked everything down as much as they can AND they both beat Android to the smartphones long before Android became popular--and they've lost traction to the Android platform, even on tablets.

I'm not sure that the argument of 'one license' for all the vendors explains it well enough when even the executives at Nokia are crying about how Microsoft' closed nature and rigid template for their OS's hardware and software changes limits Nokia's ability to make their own flavor of device--ironic, considering pichlo's attempt to portray Android device vendors as "Yet Another Android Vendor™." It seems to me that whatever "freedoms" Nokia was allowed under their deal with Microsoft, it's not really been realized in any way that has done them any good. To be honest, I don't really see any differentiation between a Lumia and a Samsung or anybody else's Windows Phones.. they all seem to look and run the same on pretty much the same set of hardware no matter what color or shape the phone looks like--I can't say that for Android where there's so much variation that opponents are always crying 'fragmentation!' left and right.

Originally Posted by Dave999 View Post
The new budge iphone:



Will this boost the apple stock?
This begs the question:How is this one any different from other iPhones with maybe the exception of the iPhone 5's AMAZINGLY loooooong but tiny screen?
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